Laura from Castlebar Collies suggested to me I put some information in my blog about feeding the raw diet. I thought about it and decided it was a great idea, as I have helped quite a few people convert to feeding this way over the phone and emails. This would be a lot easier for someone to just read it here. Thanks Laura! You know how much I love BLOGGING!!!!
I am going to give you my experience and you can take it or leave it. If you want to do something different or do your own research (highly recommended) please do. I really don't want to get into any discussions on why or how or a better way if you don't agree with me other than some superficial "you might want to try this' type dialogue. I use to preach and found as I get older, it's an exhausting way to live. If someone is interested in what I do, I gladly will share what I've experienced. With that "disclaimer" here goes!
I originally had the idea that kibble was not what I wanted to feed my dogs back when I had my first collie. In the early 80's I questioned it again, but really, loved going to the feed store to buy bags of kibble. The package design was always interesting to me, being a graphic artist, so if it had cool art on it, and looked superior to any other food, I would probably buy it. I did read the ingredients list also, but back then, it didn't mean too much to me. It was really more like "I need to find a 'lamb-based' kibble. Remember that? I probably would credit my best friend Lori Perea to making me look at the error of my ways. My first collie Kiita was very allergic and she was on a vegetarian kibble for a while designed by a very famous vet. Somewhere in my little mind, I thought dogs could eat this way. Lori helped me in her very Lori way to realized dogs are meant to eat meat. She also turned me on to Juliette de Bairacli Levy's "The Complete Handbook for the Dog and Cat". (Juliette recently died at 96!) I devoured that book and still enjoy reading it. She raised champion Afghan Hounds.
In 1992 I ventured into raw feeding with the help of another individual who had a basic recipe of ground raw meat, ground veggies, cooked grains & supplements. It was a 1/3 portion of each. Most of my dogs did fine on it, except poor Moku who could not deal with the grains (at least in the proportion I was feeding him). After about 2 years, I got frustrated with him and the cost of the meat. I was still feeding a ground, organic meat and also didn't have much of a freezer, except the top of my fridge.
During the next 8 years, I went back to kibble several times but always coming back to raw with my dogs especially if I was going to breed and whelp puppies. Each time I "refined" what I was feeding, mainly eliminating grains completely. I also stopped stressing about the supplements. I'd lay in bed at night and worry that I forgot their Vit. E or whatever else and that they weren't getting all of their nutrients. Meanwhile I had had several litters, most of which were very normal and healthy. My puppies are never huge when they're born, but I also don't tube feed, as I feel that this is causing a lack of natural selection. I cringe at the fact that I might be breeding to a dog who's breeder prides themselves on bringing back a baby puppy that probably should have died. I know for a lot of people this sounds harsh, but when we look at the lack of health in our animals, this to me is a contributing factor. Survival of the fittest ~ in the best way I can stand. Not all puppies are meant to live and I don't care if it's a future CCA winner. Winning is far from my mind in that respect!
In my quest for more knowledge, I read Dr. Ian Billinghurst's 3 books on raw feeding. "Give Your Dog A Bone", "The Barf Diet" and "Grow Your Pups With Bones". While he's not a talented writer, his style is relaxed and easy to follow. After reading his books, I was less stressed that I was doing something wrong. Onward and upward!
I also joined a yahoo group called CarnivoreFeed-Supplier@yahoogroups.com and several others on raw feeding at YahooGroups. The whole process helped me gain more confidence and again, not feeling like I was doing it wrong. CarnivoreFeed-Supplier is a great place to help find meat & bones in bulk so you aren't paying a ton of money to feed your dogs. This list will help you anywhere you live in the country.
I also looked at the condition of my dogs. I liked that my puppies grow slow. They have very nice muscling and shiny coats. The condition of their teeth and gums are beautiful. Even Kaia at almost 13 years old has healthy looking gums because of all the bones she's consumed. Her teeth are stained with age, but no gingivitis, which you can see on a kibble fed dog usually in their first year. The only teeth cleaning I ever do are on their top canines. For some reason those will get a small bit of tarter. The other perk is their stools. The volume is easily a 1/3 less and if you accidently step in it (I step in it for the fun ~ hahaha!) it won't stick to your shoes. True story! I've suggested to Tony that I can feed his dog what my dogs eat, but he can't seem to go there, even though his dog tries to knock me down every time I bring in Kaia's dinner. When I went on a dog show trip he was home to take care of the rest of the dogs. I told him part of his job was to pick up after them. He called a few days later and said he couldn't find their poop. I thought that would convince him, but in reality, he doesn't have to pick up Parkers' "soft serve shit" anymore so out of sight out of mind.
Currently and consistently for the last 8 or 9 years, my dogs have eaten a variety of raw, meaty bones, approximately 10% organ meats and salmon oil. I use to cuisinart vegetables but don't anymore. If they get any, it's in a pre-mixed frozen food I'll feed from Oma's Pride (www.omaspride.com). I like to have that food on hand, or ground from Creston Valley Meats (www.crestonvalleymeats.com). to help with variety and feed more meat and less bone. Kaia also in the last month is not interested in eating bones, except chicken, so she's getting mainly ground. I also will feed this on dog show weekends, or sometimes when I'm traveling, as it is easier. Though throwing the dogs a chicken leg quarter, or pork brisket is about as easy as it gets! Traveling by plane also is not a problem as most places I've ever been have markets ~ hence meaty bones.
I buy in bulk 1-2x's a month and freeze or re-freeze meat in smaller packages based on how many dogs I'm feeding. My chest freezer has saved me and I highly recommend anyone wanting to venture into feeding raw to make that a primary purchase. Without one, you will go crazy trying to keep meat on hand if you have more than 1 or 2 dogs. I know I have a few friends who have more than one chest freezer. One friend has 5....but she lives in Canada and can get deer and elk scraps from her hunter friends. (I'm soooo jealous!!) I gave away a smaller one when I bought my big freezer and I'm not sure what I was thinking. D u f u s ! The refrigerator (with freezer) in the garage helps also because I can have several days food in there thawing and it doesn't have to be in the kitchen fridge. Pre-thinking also helps in thawing meat. Remember to do it!!!
Variety is very important to feeding raw, as is in our own food, though I've always been confused on who should eat better first! (The dogs...) A lot of times people will get into the habit of feeding too much chicken (because it's cheaper) and easier to get. That is where the salmon oil comes in, to balance out the Omega 3's. I try and feed red meats more and more, as not only do the dogs love them, they are a more "natural" prey for them, though dogs will eat anything even if it's wrong. My dogs in particular LOVE rabbit, goat and elk. I also feed the usual chicken, turkey, pork, beef AND, buffalo, fish (sardines, salmon), and lamb. Green tripe is another food that the dogs go nuts about and I feed at least once a week. You can order from www.greentripe.com. I usually get it thru Oma's Pride with my other meats or Creston Valley Meats, if Simon has it. I've NEVER had a dog refuse green tripe. I know one company sells it in cans, but to me that's defeating the purpose of raw, but I suppose you have to start somewhere. Or, it makes you feel better.
People ask me how to figure out portions. I have a certain routine with my dogs on how much to give, and having done it for so long, it's not a big deal. The main thing is your dog will tell you with their weight and also if they leave food. I also don't feed the same amount every night, as the meats are so different. Some nights the dogs get a bigger meal, then the next, a smaller meal. Or, the whole week they're all about the same. I also am in big fan of fasting the dogs, though don't do it as regularly as I used to. Dogs are meant to gorge on a big meal then not eat for several days. There is plenty of research done at the diets of wolves (of which dogs have the same DNA). A good book to read on that subject is Dr. Tom Lonsdale's "Raw, Meaty Bones ~ Promote Health". Or L. Dave Mech's many books though I have not read any at this point. An argument is our dogs have been so domesticated in the last 60 or so years, but in the scheme of our world, that isn't very long for the inner workings of an animal to change. If that was true, they wouldn't still have carnivore teeth (for ripping and chewing meat) and a digestive system to digest such meat and bone. If my dogs changed so much, I could feed them corn and wheat and brown rice (a high up ingredient in most kibbles) and they should be able to digest it. They don't. It comes out the same way it went in. Now, if I feed my dogs a whole rabbit, they will digest virtually everything in a beautiful way (hence my cool yard!). Dogs digest meat and bone in about 4 hours and a dog that has been eating such a diet has the proper enzymes in their system to do it properly. A kibbled or processed diet stays in their system for more like 12 hours. That is not good. I'd love to see more study done on bloat and raw fed dogs. Juliette de Bairacli Levy talks about a stomach that doesn't need to digest meat and bone because of an improper diet. She felt the stomach was atrophying and led to problems such as bloat. To me, this is interesting stuff. I know there are many variables to this horrible condition but even Purdue University came back with a study saying that dogs showed less tendency to bloat who ate more meat, even if it was canned meat. A raw diet also has a very high water content. Kibble does not, even if you soak it. My dogs don't drink the huge amounts of water eating raw. Parker, after eating his kibble will drink huge amounts. I don't think that's such a good thing.
There is so much information on why raw is better than kibble or canned food. I will let you do your own research on the quality of the "meats" in kibble, especially the less expensive ones and the hierarchy of the ingredient list. We have only been feeding a commercial dog food for a short time in our history and I don't think that dogs are better for it. All you have to do is talk to some old time vets and find out what they are treating dogs for now, as opposed to when they first started their practice. Excellent reading, and I already have it on my blog is Dr. Martin Goldstein DVM's "The Nature of Animal Healing". I can not recommend this book enough. His clinic, last time I checked has the highest success rate of curing cancer in the country. He's brilliant and humble. Dr. Goldstein has probably helped more people change what they do with their pets than any other individual because of his work.
There are many other variables to health that I won't get into here, but in your quest to change your dog's diet, you will find them. I told someone yesterday that when someone asks me why I think my dogs are better on a raw diet, I tell them I will know more in about 15 years. I'm on my 6th generation of collies, mainly on one side of the pedigree, but there is so much more work to be done. What we've done to our dogs isn't going to fix overnight. It will be a generational thing. Raw is not the end all be all (for you Julie!) but it can be for some dogs. The other variables of eliminating toxins in your pets and environment as best you can, giving the dog good exercise, sun & fresh air, fair training and discipline AND a lot of love. That is a start. Good luck on your quest. This is a wonderful world we live in!
In a nutshell:
Feed as close to a whole prey animal as possible. I haven't found that very convenient or practical most of the time. Simon at Creston Valley Meats puts a lot more parts in his ground that just buying a chicken leg quarter. He also sells whole rabbit and that is an ideal food in my book.
The idea also is to feed the same prey animal & organs at the same time. Again, not always easiest to do. If you're feeding raw, you are way ahead of the game.
Always feed bones with your meat. And, always feed it raw. Cooked bones can splinter and are very dangerous. Raw bones also can get stuck in a dog's throat or teeth, so nothing is guaranteed in life. My dogs eat in crates so I don't have any fighting over meals and I do check them regularly. Meat without bones is unbalanced. Your dogs will get diarrhea. If anything will make you stop the raw diet, that will.
Leg bearing bones (especially the larger animals like cows and goat) can be hard on their teeth. Try to avoid them. I also have had leg goat bones get stuck on the molars. Just watch your dogs. And, in all reality, I've heard more dogs aspirate on kibble than choke on bones. A dog eating a raw bone is....poetry.
Variety is very important, especially feeding plenty of the red meats. Human grade meat is what I strive to feed (except green tripe will never be human grade...unless you want to eat it on "Fear Factor"). If I had my way, I'd get meat & bones from hunters or grow my own livestock. Pierre and I used to have our chickens and rabbits and occasionally thin out our animals. The dogs loved the rabbits. With growing your own meat, you know what is in it. Unless you're feeding commercial grain with antibiotics and spraying your pastures with RoundUp, your animals should be in great health. If you live in a rural area, sometimes you can get on a list for road kill (deer) within a certain time frame. If the deer is fresh, healthy looking and you can put it in your freezer (with the help of a knowledgeable loved one like I'm hoping) that is another way.
Supplement with a good wild salmon oil. Read on the package for dosages. As far as supplementing with anything else, I don't. If you can get it in the food, and there is a good variety, that is ideal. I think we can screw up things more by supplementing. And, back to puppies of smaller weight, I figure if they are hardy, nurse strongly on their own, they'll gain the weight asap and grow at a more healthy rate. I don't want joint problems with them, and growing too big and fast can sometimes cause those problems.
Raw, range fed eggs are another item I will feed. I crack the whole egg into their bowls and they sometimes eat the shells. When I get chickens again and I can monitor their diets, my dogs will get eggs again. Store bought, even range fed are not my idea of real eggs.
The end! I promise!